seems getting the balance between effective infantry killing and effective AV killing on a vehicle versus the infantry versions is always going to be off.

i think what we need is to separate the infantry killing tanks from the tank killing tanks and then give the av role back to the tankers and reduce light av to killing light vehicles.

in doing this we will get a much better balance on the field which doesn't require infantry to stop doing everything to clear out tankers.

my suggestion is make all current tank turrets av only. dont worry they will have reduced damage from all forms of light weapon av and remotes (excluding proximity mines or forge) so not going to be weak against infantry. now create a new turret mount which takes the main weapon slot. equip this turret and it will allow you to fit 2-4 small turrets to it depending on level. skills for this turret mount will increase effectiveness of small turrets in all ways. these small turrets will be very weak to tanks but great for anti infantry and light vehicles.

rails mount 2-4 would essentially become AA guns (can look straight up 90 degrees from forward but not down,long range)
missile mount 2-4 would become light vehicle av (fast tracking short range)
blaster mount 2-4 would become anti infantry guns (medium range, medium tracking)

with this tanks have no worry from infantry av yet to go anti infantry they will be weak to av tanks. imagine a squad of tanks covering all roles with infantry in between in with the vehicles fighting away. 1 tank to do all tasks is not going to get any reasonable balance with infantry.

So infantry would have no way of effectively fighting back against HAVs and would have to rely on tanks to deal with tanks?

Unfortunately there's really no way to get around this statement. Light vehicles and medium vehicles are neither prolific enough, nor more available than HAVs and dropships except by circumstance of BPO.

Then of course, there's the problem of making swarms less effective against heavier vehicles but retaining their gimpiness vs. infantry. I've suggested it before, but I don't necessarily think it's a good idea. the downsides outweigh any advantage.

As it stands swarms have the highest DPS, lowest alpha.

unfortunately, until Light vehicles are used as more than cheap, expendable transport by more than a handful of people it's really hard to justify. Therein lies the problem. Nevermind it's EVE where Caldari engineers figured out how to deliver a kinetic shockwave through vacuum.

I think what he is trying to say is making a new set of turrets that are specifically for Vehicle vs Vehicle thus keeping the skies and ground clear of vehicles if need be, but make them more expensive then the normal ones.

Suggested names:
Dual Rail Launcher
Mounted Rocket Launcher
Dual Blaster

Going around 3 corners, ignoring obstacles and terrain is simple AI? Sounds more like a full, almost sentient AI to me for each missile.

what the hell are you talking about. i said nothing like that

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as always you take everything out of context to make a point. i have zero problem with tanks killing infantry. i have zero problem with tanks killing tanks. i do have a problem with tanks killing everything in sight with the 1 turret and light av destroying most vehicles easily.

unlike your spkr i actually want to see a balance to this game that everyone on both sides can live with. i'm trying here to give alternatives that can be balanced while people like you only care about the return of god mode tanks which will never be balanced